24 jan 2009
The Satanic state of "israel" has NO right to exist
That’s right, I said it. And no, this isn’t a typical MEMRI “mistranslation” or anything like that. I’m not the first and I won’t be the last to declare without hesitation that “israel”(the lower case and quotation marks are intentional) has NO right to exist whatsoever.
I just found out that Norman Finkelstein called “Israel” a “satanic state,” check the video below. Strong language indeed for an atheist. Ceasefires come and go, but death and devastation remains.
I just found out that Norman Finkelstein called “Israel” a “satanic state,” check the video below. Strong language indeed for an atheist. Ceasefires come and go, but death and devastation remains.
Eretz israel
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The Judeofascist cult of death uses chemical(white phosphorus), biological, and even nuclear weaponry (depleted uranium) on schools, homes, hospitals because their real aim is the complete annihilation of the Palestinian people and the establishment of "Eretz israel." That's been the plan from day one.
To think that I once entertained the thought that some sort of peace could be possible with these evil, mass murdering, inhuman, genocidal bastards. Enough is enough. No more Deir Yasins. No more Qanas. No more Jenins. No more Tom Hurndalls. No more James Millers. No more Rachel Corries. No more Muhammed al-Durrahs. No more "israel." Now more than ever it’s crystal clear that the transplanted Judeofascist colony has to go. |
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Over 1300 Palestinian men, woman and children were targeted and murdered by the fifth largest army in the world using the most sophisticated weapons, and this massacre is called a "war"?.
And these sociopaths complain of rockets fired in retaliation? Israel violated the ceasefire by killing various Hamas leaders while maintaining a 2 year long siege of Gaza, those are just some of the facts the Zionist MSM neglected to mention. "israel" planned (hat tip : Sam) this attack, just like they planned the attack on Lebanon 2 years ago. So yes, they deserve every rocket(which btw can’t even make a dent in asphalt, but only an idiot would think Palestinian would throw stones as their only weapon) fired in their direction. It's their homeland and they have every right to resist with extreme prejudice. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Note to the spineless Arab client regimes, your collaboration and silence will not be forgotten or forgiven. |
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Holocaust comparison(WWII Jews with Palestinians) photos provided by Persia1. Click for higher resolution.
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I’m going to take aim at number of myths the usurper scum have invented to justify their criminal occupation, but first lets give them due credit for their pioneering trail blazing acts as :
1. The first aircraft hijacking was carried out by Israel in 1954 against a Syrian civilian airliner. 2. Grenades in cafes: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Jerusalem on 17 March 1937. 3. Delayed-action, electrically timed mines in crowded marketplaces: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Haifa on 6 July 1938. 4. Blowing up a ship with its civilian passengers still on board: first carried out by Zionists in Haifa on 25 November 1940. The Zionists did not hesitate to blow up their own people in protest at the British policy of restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine. The ship, Patria, was carrying 1,700 Jewish immigrants. 5. Assassination of government officials: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Cairo, when on 6 November 1944 Lord Moyne was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the Irgun and later leader of the Stern Gang and Israeli prime minister, was behind the plan. 6. Use of hostages as a means of putting pressure on a government: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv on 18 June 1946. 7. Blowing up of government offices with their civilian employees and visitors: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946. The toll was 91 Britons killed and 46 wounded in the King David Hotel. Menachim Begin, who masterminded and carried out the attack and later became Israeli prime minister, admitted that the massacre was coordinated with and carried out under the instruction of the Haganah Zionist gang. 8. Booby-trapped suitcases: first used by the Zionists against the British Embassy in Rome on 13 October 1946. 9. Booby-trapped cars in civilian areas: first used by the Zionists against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December 1946. 10. Beating of hostages: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv, Netanya and Rishon on 29 December 1946. 11. Letter bombs sent to politicians: first used by the Zionists against Britain when 20 letter bombs were sent from Italy to London between 4 and 6 June 1947. 12. Murder of hostages as a reprisal for government actions: first used by the Zionists against the British in the Netanya area on 29 July 1947. 13. Postal parcel bombs: first used by the Zionists against the British in London on 3 September 1947. 14. The massacre of Qibya, northwest of Jerusalem, was carried out by Unit 101, under the command of Ariel Sharon on Wednesday 14 October 1953. The attack was the bloodiest and most brutal Zionist crimes since the infamous Deir Yassin massacre. Forty-two houses as well as a school and a mosque were dynamited over their inhabitants. Seventy-five women, men and children were killed. In 1950-1951, Israeli agents were dispatched to Iraq where they tossed hand grenades into the crowded Massauda Shem-Tov synagogue, causing numerous deaths, in order to blame it on the Iraqis and encourage reluctant Iraqi Jews to emigrate to Israel. Zionist terror did not spare Jews. In 1940, Menachem Begin’s Irgun Zwei Leumi terrorist gang bombed the ship Patria in Haifa harbor, killing 240 Jewish refugees, so as to put the blame on the British for political gain. Some other lesser known acts of terrorism : Gaza City massacre: 5/4/1956 (Palestine): On the evening of Thursday, April 5, 1956, Zionist occupation forces fired 20-mm mortar artillery on the city of Gaza. The shelling was concentrated against the city center, which was teaming with civilians going about their day-to-day affairs. Most of the shelling was directed against Mukhtar Street, Palestine Square and nearby streets, as well as the Shuja'iyya district. As a result of this terrorist massacre carried out by gangs belonging to the Zionist Army against the Palestinian people, 56 people were killed and 103 were injured, the victims including men, women and children. Some of the wounded died subsequently, bringing the death toll to 60, including 27 women, 29 men and 4 children. Al-Sammou massacre: 13 November 1966 (Palestine): Israeli forces raided this village, destroyed 125 houses, the village clinic and school as well as 15 houses in a neighboring village. 18 people were killed and 54 wounded. Aitharoun Massacre: 1975 (Lebanon) :The 1sraelis perpetrated this massacre starting with a booby-trapped bomb. Then Israeli's detained three brothers, and killed them. They threw their bodies on the road. 9 civilians were killed, 23 were wounded. Kawnin Massacre: 15/10/1975(Lebanon): An Israeli tank deliberately ran over a car carrying 16 people, and none of them escaped death. Hanin Massacre : 16/10/1976(Lebanon): After a two- month siege and hours of shelling, the occupation forces stormed the village and turned it into a bloodbath. 20 persons were martyred. Bint Jbeil Massacre : 21/10/1976(Lebanon):The crowded market was the target of a sudden barrage of Israeli bombs, slaughtering a lot of people. 23 were killed, 30 were wounded. Abbasieh Massacre : 17/3/1978 (Lebanon): During the invasion of 1978, the Israeli warplanes destroyed the mosque of the town on the heads of the women, children and the elderly who used the holy place as a shelter from the heavy Israeli shelling. 80 persons were martyred. Adloun Massacre : 17/3/1978 (Lebanon): At Adloun on march 17, two cars carrying 8 passengers came under Israeli fire while they were on their way to Beirut. One passenger only escaped death. Saida Massacre : 4/4/1981 (Lebanon) :One of Saida’s residential areas was targeted by the Israeli artillery which resulted in killing of many civilians and damaging many buildings. 20 persons were killed, 30 were wounded. Fakhani Massacre : 17/7/1981 (Lebanon):A horrible massacre took place when Israeli warplanes raided a crowded residential area using the most developed weapons killing and wounding many citizens. 150 persons were killed, 600 were wounded. Beirut Massacre : 17/7/1981 (Lebanon)Israeli warplanes staged several raids on many parts of Beirut, Ouzai, Ramlet Al baida, fakhani, chatila and the area of the Arab University, killing many citizens. 150 persons were killed, 600 were wounded. Jibsheet Massacre : 27/3/1984(Lebanon): The occupation forcers’ tanks and helicopters fired at a crowded people killing many civilians. 7 persons were martyred, 10 were wounded. Sohmor Massacre : 19/9/1984 (Lebanon): The occupation forces stormed the town with tanks, and military vehicles and ordered the inhabitants to congregate at the town's mosque where they fired at them. 13 martyrs, 12 wounded. Seer Al Garbiah Massacre : 23/3/1985 (Lebanon): The massacre took place at Al- Husseinieh building where people took shelter from the shelling of the Israeli soldiers who stormed the town with a huge number of military vehicles.7 persons were martyred. Maaraka Massacres: 5/3/1985(Lebanon): The occupation forces planted an explosive device in the Husseinieh building of the town .It was detonated during the distribution of aid to the citizens who lost their lives. 15 persons were killed. Zrariah Massacre : 11/3/1985 (Lebanon): Following heavy shelling the occupation forces stormed the town with about 100 vehicles and perpetrated a butchery, killing children, women and the elderly. 22 civilians were slaughtered. |
Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre :
21/3/1985(Lebanon): After attacking the village with 140 army vehicles, the occupation forces ordered the inhabitants to gather at the school of the village. They then destroyed it over their heads. 20 innocent people were martyred.
Jibaa Massacre :
30/3/1985 (Lebanon): A huge enemy force attacked the town and put it under siege. When some people tried to escape the siege, the enemy soldiers fired at them, killing and wounding them. 5 people were killed, 5 were wounded.
Yohmor Massacre :
13/4/1985 (Lebanon): At one O’clock in the morning, an Israeli armored force entered the town using civilian cars and opened fire at the houses which resulted in the killing of 10 people, among them a family of six people.
Tiri massacre :
17/8/1986 (Lebanon): Merciless crimes against civilians increased in the town with the occupation forces cutting the hands and ears from the head. 4 persons were killed, 79 were crippled and wounded.
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre (Palestinian camp):
11/12/1986(Lebanon): The Israeli warplanes raided this Palestinian refugee camp killing many of the refugees. 20 people were killed , 22 were wounded.
Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre(Palestinian Camp) :
5/9/1987(Lebanon): The enemy jet fighters launched two raids killing 31 and wounding 41 others. The refugees were hit by a thin raid while they were evacuating casualties, 34 more being killed.
Oyon Qara massacre :
20 May 1990, an Israeli soldier lined up Palestinian labors and murdered seven of them with a sub-machine gun. 13 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in subsequent demonstrations at the massacre.
Siddiqine Massacre:
25/7/1990(Lebanon): The Israeli warplanes bombed a house, among the 3 killed a four year old child.
See a pattern?
That's just the tip of the ice berg, here's the Cliffnote version :
6 wars
4 million Palestinian Refugees
3 million Occupied
254 km of an Apartheid Wall
562 Humiliation-check-points
20K Political-prisoners
468,831 new settlers on an Occupied land
Disappearance of Palestine
Destruction of 350 Churches & Mosques
World Leader in UN Violations, at 69
Has Killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other country 50,000+
Has Imprisoned more civilians per capita 250,000+
Has rendered more civilians Handicapped per capita 50,000+
Onto the myth busting :
Israeli has a “divine claim” to Palestine
Total rubbish. Zionism is an atheistic political ideology founded by non-Semitic Askhenazi Khazars from East Europe. How exactly do they reconcile their atheism with religious delusions of living 5000 years in the past with God as their real estate agent? Oh, but I forget these usurpers have “racialized” Judiasm. And please don’t waste my time with the outdated 19th century European definition of anti-Semitism i.e. Jews only. The vast majority of Semites in the world are Arabs(Muslims, Christians and Jews). Deal with it.
Essentially the term anti-Semite has been hijacked and reduced to the mere definition of anti-zionist, and it is ludicrous and ridiculous, since 90% of today's world Jews don't have any direct or indirect link with the original Hebrews. Since they do not originate from that "part of the world", and do not belong to that particular ethnic group, they cannot call themselves Semite. They are only "Semite" by derivative assimilation. The fact of living in Cairo-Egypt or being of Muslim confession doesn't make a Japanese person into an Arab. He does become a Muslim, but his place of residence, his citizenship, his faith (or conversion) doesn't magically impact or transmute his ethnicity or genetic background, into something else. Today's use of Semitism is as ridiculous as the use of Aryanism of yesteryear.
What about US pressure?
The answer to this question can go on forever so I’m going to make it short. If any evidence is needed that Israel calls the shots in the US, look no further then the murder of Rachel Corrie. She was the American peace activist who was bulldozed to death in broad daylight, in front of cameras by the Israelis. And guess what? Not a peep out of a single American politician. Adding insult to injury, she was dismissed as a mentally unstable woman by the criminal Zionist fifth column. “Saint Pancake” they called her. Even The play My Name Is Rachel Corrie was canceled thanks to them. Forget “freedom of speech,” this is a clear case of the tail wagging the dog.
“israel” makes the Intel chip in your computer.
Wrong. You might as well claim that Indians invented modern telecommunications due to the outsourced call center industry. Intel outsourced its operations to Israel in the 1970s, and having a research and development in Haifa doesn’t make them an “Israeli” company. Nevertheless, I have never purchased an Intel product and have no intention of doing so. Stick with AMD(their new Phenom II 940 Quad core chip whips Intel's chips, sans the i7).
The mythical Palestinian-Nazi connection
Being the professional liars that they are, “israel’s” amen corner has used a visiting German delegation in Palestine from back in the 1930s as evidence of “collaboration with German Nazis.” Nothing could be further from the truth. There were no gas chambers in Palestine, nor did any Palestinians serve in Hitler’s army. Oh, but what about the Mufti of Jerusalem meeting Hitler? Curb your enthusiasm schmucks. The Mufti was an enemy of the British, who controlled Palestine. He wanted invading Jewish terrorists out of his country.
Conveniently left out is the fact that hundreds of thousands of Muslims fought in their respective colonial armies for both French and British against the Nazis. Interestingly enough, over a hundred thousand Jews served in Hitler’s army. Even more revealing is the fact that Avraham Stern, the leader of the Zionist terrorist “Stern Gang,” late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on “Germany’s side,” in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the “Jewish Question” in Europe, and their assistance in creating an “historic Jewish state.” The Zionists and the Nazis had a common interest, making German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Read more about it in "51 documents : Zionist collaboration with the Nazis."
Speaking of allying with Nazis, the fastest way to make Zionists fill their pants is to bring up the decades old friendship between “Israel” and Apartheid South Africa. That’s right, while the rest of the world shunned them, “israel” forged a friendship so intimate that Apartheid South Africa become a nuclear armed state thanks to “Israeli” uh “expertise”(theft and espionage) in the field.
Palestinians need to “recognize” “israel”
Putting aside the fact Palestinian leadership(including Hamas who did so by endorsing the Saudi Peace Plan of 2002) have “recognized”(coerced, a pre-condition to even have a place at the negotiating table) “Israel.” Take a look at the following map :
21/3/1985(Lebanon): After attacking the village with 140 army vehicles, the occupation forces ordered the inhabitants to gather at the school of the village. They then destroyed it over their heads. 20 innocent people were martyred.
Jibaa Massacre :
30/3/1985 (Lebanon): A huge enemy force attacked the town and put it under siege. When some people tried to escape the siege, the enemy soldiers fired at them, killing and wounding them. 5 people were killed, 5 were wounded.
Yohmor Massacre :
13/4/1985 (Lebanon): At one O’clock in the morning, an Israeli armored force entered the town using civilian cars and opened fire at the houses which resulted in the killing of 10 people, among them a family of six people.
Tiri massacre :
17/8/1986 (Lebanon): Merciless crimes against civilians increased in the town with the occupation forces cutting the hands and ears from the head. 4 persons were killed, 79 were crippled and wounded.
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre (Palestinian camp):
11/12/1986(Lebanon): The Israeli warplanes raided this Palestinian refugee camp killing many of the refugees. 20 people were killed , 22 were wounded.
Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre(Palestinian Camp) :
5/9/1987(Lebanon): The enemy jet fighters launched two raids killing 31 and wounding 41 others. The refugees were hit by a thin raid while they were evacuating casualties, 34 more being killed.
Oyon Qara massacre :
20 May 1990, an Israeli soldier lined up Palestinian labors and murdered seven of them with a sub-machine gun. 13 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in subsequent demonstrations at the massacre.
Siddiqine Massacre:
25/7/1990(Lebanon): The Israeli warplanes bombed a house, among the 3 killed a four year old child.
See a pattern?
That's just the tip of the ice berg, here's the Cliffnote version :
6 wars
4 million Palestinian Refugees
3 million Occupied
254 km of an Apartheid Wall
562 Humiliation-check-points
20K Political-prisoners
468,831 new settlers on an Occupied land
Disappearance of Palestine
Destruction of 350 Churches & Mosques
World Leader in UN Violations, at 69
Has Killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other country 50,000+
Has Imprisoned more civilians per capita 250,000+
Has rendered more civilians Handicapped per capita 50,000+
Onto the myth busting :
Israeli has a “divine claim” to Palestine
Total rubbish. Zionism is an atheistic political ideology founded by non-Semitic Askhenazi Khazars from East Europe. How exactly do they reconcile their atheism with religious delusions of living 5000 years in the past with God as their real estate agent? Oh, but I forget these usurpers have “racialized” Judiasm. And please don’t waste my time with the outdated 19th century European definition of anti-Semitism i.e. Jews only. The vast majority of Semites in the world are Arabs(Muslims, Christians and Jews). Deal with it.
Essentially the term anti-Semite has been hijacked and reduced to the mere definition of anti-zionist, and it is ludicrous and ridiculous, since 90% of today's world Jews don't have any direct or indirect link with the original Hebrews. Since they do not originate from that "part of the world", and do not belong to that particular ethnic group, they cannot call themselves Semite. They are only "Semite" by derivative assimilation. The fact of living in Cairo-Egypt or being of Muslim confession doesn't make a Japanese person into an Arab. He does become a Muslim, but his place of residence, his citizenship, his faith (or conversion) doesn't magically impact or transmute his ethnicity or genetic background, into something else. Today's use of Semitism is as ridiculous as the use of Aryanism of yesteryear.
What about US pressure?
The answer to this question can go on forever so I’m going to make it short. If any evidence is needed that Israel calls the shots in the US, look no further then the murder of Rachel Corrie. She was the American peace activist who was bulldozed to death in broad daylight, in front of cameras by the Israelis. And guess what? Not a peep out of a single American politician. Adding insult to injury, she was dismissed as a mentally unstable woman by the criminal Zionist fifth column. “Saint Pancake” they called her. Even The play My Name Is Rachel Corrie was canceled thanks to them. Forget “freedom of speech,” this is a clear case of the tail wagging the dog.
“israel” makes the Intel chip in your computer.
Wrong. You might as well claim that Indians invented modern telecommunications due to the outsourced call center industry. Intel outsourced its operations to Israel in the 1970s, and having a research and development in Haifa doesn’t make them an “Israeli” company. Nevertheless, I have never purchased an Intel product and have no intention of doing so. Stick with AMD(their new Phenom II 940 Quad core chip whips Intel's chips, sans the i7).
The mythical Palestinian-Nazi connection
Being the professional liars that they are, “israel’s” amen corner has used a visiting German delegation in Palestine from back in the 1930s as evidence of “collaboration with German Nazis.” Nothing could be further from the truth. There were no gas chambers in Palestine, nor did any Palestinians serve in Hitler’s army. Oh, but what about the Mufti of Jerusalem meeting Hitler? Curb your enthusiasm schmucks. The Mufti was an enemy of the British, who controlled Palestine. He wanted invading Jewish terrorists out of his country.
Conveniently left out is the fact that hundreds of thousands of Muslims fought in their respective colonial armies for both French and British against the Nazis. Interestingly enough, over a hundred thousand Jews served in Hitler’s army. Even more revealing is the fact that Avraham Stern, the leader of the Zionist terrorist “Stern Gang,” late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on “Germany’s side,” in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the “Jewish Question” in Europe, and their assistance in creating an “historic Jewish state.” The Zionists and the Nazis had a common interest, making German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Read more about it in "51 documents : Zionist collaboration with the Nazis."
Speaking of allying with Nazis, the fastest way to make Zionists fill their pants is to bring up the decades old friendship between “Israel” and Apartheid South Africa. That’s right, while the rest of the world shunned them, “israel” forged a friendship so intimate that Apartheid South Africa become a nuclear armed state thanks to “Israeli” uh “expertise”(theft and espionage) in the field.
Palestinians need to “recognize” “israel”
Putting aside the fact Palestinian leadership(including Hamas who did so by endorsing the Saudi Peace Plan of 2002) have “recognized”(coerced, a pre-condition to even have a place at the negotiating table) “Israel.” Take a look at the following map :
UPDATE 2013
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Who and what exactly are Palestinians supposed to recognize? The “israel” of 1948, or 1967, 1973, or 2009? “israel” doesn’t define its borders and hence is not a state. It’s an expanding military barracks, not a nation. Palestinians have no obligation giving the invaders of their homeland any sort of recognition whatsoever, never mind the fact that “Israelis” have never recognized the Palestinians as a people.
A state may have a right to exist, but not absolutely at the expense of other states, or more important, at the expense of millions of human individuals and their rights to justice. Why should anyone concede Israel's "right" to exist, when it has never even acknowledged the foundational crimes of murder and ethnic cleansing by means of which Israel took our towns and villages, our farms and orchards, and made us a nation of refugees? Why should any Palestinian "recognize" the monstrous crime carried out by Israel's founders and continued by its deformed modern apartheid state, while he or she lives 10 to a room in a cinderblock, tin-roof United Nations hut? These are not abstract questions, and it is not rejectionist simply because we have refused to abandon the victims of 1948 and their descendants. As Golda Meir said “there is no such thing as a Palestinian." And who can forget Ben Gurion’s take on peace : ”Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it’s true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? |
There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations’ time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it’s simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipes us out”. (The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman, p. 99)
“The Arabs cannot accept the existence of Israel. Those who accept it are not normal. The best solution for the [Palestinian] Arabs in Israel is to go and live in the Arab states—in the framework of a peace treaty or transfer.” (Simha Flapan, p. 99)
I’ll stop here, and save the rest for Judeofascist Awareness Week 2009. What’s that? Waiting for the Messiah you say? Oh they'll get their "Messiah" alright. Don’t worry it won’t be long before the Judeofascists and their Armagedonist fake Christian shabbos goyim get their wish at the side of Dajjal. But guess what? One day they'll stand in a difference court in front in front of another Judge, and and on that that day يَوْمَئِذ ٍ تُحَدِّثُ أَخْبَارَهَا Yawma'idhin Tuĥaddithu 'Akhbārahā (99:04), there will be hell to pay. (video removed from site)
“The Arabs cannot accept the existence of Israel. Those who accept it are not normal. The best solution for the [Palestinian] Arabs in Israel is to go and live in the Arab states—in the framework of a peace treaty or transfer.” (Simha Flapan, p. 99)
I’ll stop here, and save the rest for Judeofascist Awareness Week 2009. What’s that? Waiting for the Messiah you say? Oh they'll get their "Messiah" alright. Don’t worry it won’t be long before the Judeofascists and their Armagedonist fake Christian shabbos goyim get their wish at the side of Dajjal. But guess what? One day they'll stand in a difference court in front in front of another Judge, and and on that that day يَوْمَئِذ ٍ تُحَدِّثُ أَخْبَارَهَا Yawma'idhin Tuĥaddithu 'Akhbārahā (99:04), there will be hell to pay. (video removed from site)
Commentary By Don Talbot
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Note - We have received several similar posts with Talmudic quotes during the current MidEast crisis. We post this as a point of information and follow it with a formal rebuttal.
Dear Mr Rense, Please find below an article regarding quotes and comments on the Jewish holy book - The Talmud. With the recent dangerous developments in the Middle East, I feel it is essential that one looks at what drives some Jews to think and behave as they do, and also where this mind set has its origins. I do hope you find this article suitable for posting on your extraordinary website.
Yours truly, Don Talbot
QUOTES 'WITH ATTITUDE' FROM JEWISH TALMUD
In case you don't know anything about this holy of holy manuscript, its history, and what can be found within in it, keep reading. It is said Jewish Scribes received the Talmud partly as a collection of traditions given to them from Moses in oral form. This very brief study and its authenticated references are based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian Talmud.
Presented herein is irrefutable documentation in the hope of helping liberate all people,including Jewish people, from the corrosive delusions and racism of this Talmudic hate literature, which is the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.
The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused untold suffering throughout history and now, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.
Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Where a Jew Should Do Evil Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b.
If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full. Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a .
If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a .
When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty.
What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b.
The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a.
Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
WAIT...THERE'S MORE -
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a.
All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b.
Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations. Yebamoth 59b.
A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest. Hagigah 27a.
States that no rabbi can ever go to hell. Baba Mezia 59b.
A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate. Gittin 70a.
On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic. Menahoth 43b-44a.
A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."
What Jewish Scholars Are Saying: Rabbi Meir Kahane, told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
ENTER THE US GOVERNMENT.
U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts: "Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
For more information regarding any of the above (from where much of this information was obtained) see: http://www.hoffman-info.com/talmudtruth.html
Response to 'QUOTES FROM THE TALMUD' http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/qts.html Also known as "Non-Jews as seen in the Jewish Talmud" and "Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud"
CLAIM "The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..." "Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society, p. XII The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as "Gentiles", "Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People":
RESPONSE It is true that modern Judaism derives most of its teachings from the Talmud, but what anti-Semites claim about the Talmud is quite different from the truth. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
RESPONSE (1) This represents a lack of knowledge of Hebrew at a most fundamental level. Here, the anti-Semites claim that Adam means human but it really means man. "Yetsoor" is the Hebrew word for human. Jews are referred to by the singular form of man, Adam, whilst non-Jews are referred to by the plural form of man, or anasheem. Both forms of the word mean human, but one is single, the other is plural. The reason that Jews are referred to in the singular is that if one Jew does something bad, or is alleged to have, all Jews are blamed for it. So, for the wrongdoing or alleged wrongdoing of one, all suffer. In the case of non-Jews, only individuals suffer, not all of the non-Jews. So that is why Jews are referred to as a single person and non-Jews are referred to in the plural. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
RESPONSE (2) (Also, see other responses elswhere.) Apparently a deliberate mistranslation. The passage deals with the technical rules of corpse-impurity which, according to the author of this text, apply to Jews and not to gentiles. In this connection Ezekiel 34:31 is cited: "And ye My sheep [referring to Israel], the sheep of My pasture, are _men [Hebrew: "adam"]_, and I am your God, saith the Lord God." From a careful midrashic reading of this Biblical verse, Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai deduced "Only "ye" [i.e., Israel, not other nations] are designated "adam," in the sense that only Jewish corpses and graves generate impurity according to Numbers 19:14: "This is the law: when a _man ['adam']_ dieth in a tent, every one that cometh into the tent...shall be unclean seven days..." The passage is legal and exegetical, not theological. If anything, it seems to put Jews on a lower footing than non-Jews. Typically, the words "but beasts" were added on by whoever put this list together. They do not appear in the original. Correspondent of [email protected] (Sara Salzman) [email protected]
CLAIM "The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
RESPONSE The reference cited is does not exist, therefore the "quote" is forgery. Also "Akum" specifically means idolater. It does not refer to non-Jews in general. Additionally, the writing style is totally inconsistent with writings of this type which are extremely terse and abbreviated since they assume a great deal of prior knowledge. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form." Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
RESPONSE (1) I was unable to check this reference in my extensive Judaica library. The book "Midrash Talpiyyot" is appparently an obscure eighteenth-century Kabbalistic work that is little known and carries no authority whatsoever. Even if the citation were correct (which seems doubtful in light of the other examples on this list, and the fact that Jews never employ the designation "Jehovah"), it is hard to imagine what could be proven from it about Judaism or the Talmud. From Usenet message [email protected]
RESPONSE (2) Apart from anything else, the use of the term "Jehovah" should be an immediate indicator of a forgery since Jews don't write this term in books. The actual book in question is not part of the Talmud but was written by a Turkish Jew called Elijah ben Solomon Abraham, ha-Koen in the eighteenth century. And it is unlikey that the quote exists given the other forgeries on this list. David S. Maddison ([email protected]) CLAIM "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405
RESPONSE The above quote is a wrong inference from a fiscal law in Shulchan Oruch, Choshen Mishpat 405.3, that relates to times when slavery was a standard and accepted practice across the world. It states that if an ox gored a pregnant woman, and this resulted in the loss of the fetus, the owner does not have to pay for the loss of the fetus (medical expenses and other damages are discussed elsewhere). If an ox gored a pregnant non-Jewish slave-woman, the owner of the ox has to pay for the loss of the fetus to the owner of the slave-woman (because the owner would have had another slave to work for him had the woman given birth). The same applies if the ox gored a pregnant cow, or a sheep, because had the animal given birth, the owner would have had an extra one. The law is clearly hinged on the rights of the owner, and does not compare non-Jews and animals in any way. It is purely legal, and does not have any philosophical or social implications. I.I.
CLAIM "The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
RESPONSE The above quote does not exist in the source. The reference to page 12b in Yalkut Reuveini is meaningless, as the pages are numbered individually, not having "a" and "b" parts. Yalkut does quote from Shnei Luchot Habrit (in Sefer Dovor Shebikdusho, Os Alef), that the souls of two ancient nations (Amoni and Moavi that do not exist now), come from "the spirit of impurity", but the same goes for the soul of a bastard (mamzer) of Jewish origin. I.I.
CLAIM "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
RESPONSE A complete fabrication. The reference to p.250 b is meaningless (unless "b" stands for "column 2"), as each page is individually numbered. There is no mention of any comparison of Jews to non-Jews on page 250. I.I.
CLAIM "If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
RESPONSE This appears to be a forgery. Joe Slater
CLAIM "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"." Jore dea 377, 1
RESPONSE The Mishna from which this law is derived speaks about a specific formula [in] Hebrew "Hamokom menachem eschem" that is said to somebody whose close relative died within [the] last 7 days, it does not mean regular words of consolation. A question is asked by the commentators: the above formula is said [by] the grieving person only for a close relative, and not even for a distant relative or a regular Jew, so why do we have to be told that it's not said for a servant? Several answers are given: either the personal servant is so close to his master, that he is considered by the master as his son, or because the servant was his property the master considered him part of his body so to speak. So why not say the above formula? The reason given is that people who don't know the master might hear and think that the slave was completely Jewish and part of master's family, which might lead to confusion. Actually, the same Mishna mentions that R. Gamaliel accepted this formula [of] condolence for his slave, because he respected the slave greatly for his Torah knowledge. I.I.
CLAIM "Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals." Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
RESPONSE It does not say this or any such thing. David Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." Sepher ikkarim III c 25
RESPONSE This is a misquotation. Rabbi Yosef Albo (the author) was asked by a Christian thinker about seeming injustice of the laws of Judaism dealing with charging interest on a loan. (According to Deuteronomy 23:20 and 23:21, a Jew is not allowed to lend with interest to another Jew, but may do so to a Gentile). R. Albo answers: The "Gentile" or "heathen" in the above passage refers to idolater, who refuses to keep seven Noahide laws. The laws are universal for all mankind:
1) prohibition of idolatry,
2) prohibition of blasphemy,
3) prohibition of murder,
4) prohibition of immorality and promiscuity,
5) prohibition of theft,
6) establishment of judicial system,
7) prohibition of cruelty to animals.
Such a person, who does not respect other's rights, places himself apart from human community and therefore can expect to be treated according to his own rules. He is a threat to everyone around and hence if somebody kills him, that person is not charged. On the contrary, even according to non-Jewish philosophers in those days (14th and 15th century, Spain), as R Albo brings, such a person should be killed. So it is regarding money matters: the prohibition of taking interest, that applies to everybody, including a non-Jew who keeps the Noahide laws (as R. Albo mentions a few sentences earlier), do not apply to him. I.I.
CLAIM "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
RESPONSE This is from the Shulcan Aruch and applies to killing Jewish heretics. The following line in this passage is that this law does not apply to anyone non-Jewish and it is forbidden to harm any gentile. The Jewish heretics are people which are a potential cause of harm and trouble to the Jewish nation. The penalty is designed to demonstrate the severity with which heretical views were considered, rather than a practical penalty as such penalties were rarely imposed. E.S./David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
RESPONSE It does not say this - this is a forgery. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
RESPONSE Midrash Bamidbar Raba 21: "[Numbers 23:11 regarding Phinehas who killed Zimri for fornicating with a Midianite woman] `Because he was zealous for his G-d and atoned for the children of Israel' It says he atoned - did he bring a sacrifice? This teaches us that whoever spills the blood of the wicked is like someone who brings a sacrifice."
Joe Slater
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Note - We have received several similar posts with Talmudic quotes during the current MidEast crisis. We post this as a point of information and follow it with a formal rebuttal.
Dear Mr Rense, Please find below an article regarding quotes and comments on the Jewish holy book - The Talmud. With the recent dangerous developments in the Middle East, I feel it is essential that one looks at what drives some Jews to think and behave as they do, and also where this mind set has its origins. I do hope you find this article suitable for posting on your extraordinary website.
Yours truly, Don Talbot
QUOTES 'WITH ATTITUDE' FROM JEWISH TALMUD
In case you don't know anything about this holy of holy manuscript, its history, and what can be found within in it, keep reading. It is said Jewish Scribes received the Talmud partly as a collection of traditions given to them from Moses in oral form. This very brief study and its authenticated references are based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian Talmud.
Presented herein is irrefutable documentation in the hope of helping liberate all people,including Jewish people, from the corrosive delusions and racism of this Talmudic hate literature, which is the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.
The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused untold suffering throughout history and now, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.
Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Where a Jew Should Do Evil Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b.
If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full. Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a .
If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a .
When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty.
What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b.
The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a.
Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
WAIT...THERE'S MORE -
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a.
All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b.
Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations. Yebamoth 59b.
A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest. Hagigah 27a.
States that no rabbi can ever go to hell. Baba Mezia 59b.
A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate. Gittin 70a.
On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic. Menahoth 43b-44a.
A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."
What Jewish Scholars Are Saying: Rabbi Meir Kahane, told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
ENTER THE US GOVERNMENT.
U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts: "Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
For more information regarding any of the above (from where much of this information was obtained) see: http://www.hoffman-info.com/talmudtruth.html
Response to 'QUOTES FROM THE TALMUD' http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/qts.html Also known as "Non-Jews as seen in the Jewish Talmud" and "Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud"
CLAIM "The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..." "Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society, p. XII The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as "Gentiles", "Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People":
RESPONSE It is true that modern Judaism derives most of its teachings from the Talmud, but what anti-Semites claim about the Talmud is quite different from the truth. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
RESPONSE (1) This represents a lack of knowledge of Hebrew at a most fundamental level. Here, the anti-Semites claim that Adam means human but it really means man. "Yetsoor" is the Hebrew word for human. Jews are referred to by the singular form of man, Adam, whilst non-Jews are referred to by the plural form of man, or anasheem. Both forms of the word mean human, but one is single, the other is plural. The reason that Jews are referred to in the singular is that if one Jew does something bad, or is alleged to have, all Jews are blamed for it. So, for the wrongdoing or alleged wrongdoing of one, all suffer. In the case of non-Jews, only individuals suffer, not all of the non-Jews. So that is why Jews are referred to as a single person and non-Jews are referred to in the plural. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
RESPONSE (2) (Also, see other responses elswhere.) Apparently a deliberate mistranslation. The passage deals with the technical rules of corpse-impurity which, according to the author of this text, apply to Jews and not to gentiles. In this connection Ezekiel 34:31 is cited: "And ye My sheep [referring to Israel], the sheep of My pasture, are _men [Hebrew: "adam"]_, and I am your God, saith the Lord God." From a careful midrashic reading of this Biblical verse, Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai deduced "Only "ye" [i.e., Israel, not other nations] are designated "adam," in the sense that only Jewish corpses and graves generate impurity according to Numbers 19:14: "This is the law: when a _man ['adam']_ dieth in a tent, every one that cometh into the tent...shall be unclean seven days..." The passage is legal and exegetical, not theological. If anything, it seems to put Jews on a lower footing than non-Jews. Typically, the words "but beasts" were added on by whoever put this list together. They do not appear in the original. Correspondent of [email protected] (Sara Salzman) [email protected]
CLAIM "The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
RESPONSE The reference cited is does not exist, therefore the "quote" is forgery. Also "Akum" specifically means idolater. It does not refer to non-Jews in general. Additionally, the writing style is totally inconsistent with writings of this type which are extremely terse and abbreviated since they assume a great deal of prior knowledge. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form." Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
RESPONSE (1) I was unable to check this reference in my extensive Judaica library. The book "Midrash Talpiyyot" is appparently an obscure eighteenth-century Kabbalistic work that is little known and carries no authority whatsoever. Even if the citation were correct (which seems doubtful in light of the other examples on this list, and the fact that Jews never employ the designation "Jehovah"), it is hard to imagine what could be proven from it about Judaism or the Talmud. From Usenet message [email protected]
RESPONSE (2) Apart from anything else, the use of the term "Jehovah" should be an immediate indicator of a forgery since Jews don't write this term in books. The actual book in question is not part of the Talmud but was written by a Turkish Jew called Elijah ben Solomon Abraham, ha-Koen in the eighteenth century. And it is unlikey that the quote exists given the other forgeries on this list. David S. Maddison ([email protected]) CLAIM "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405
RESPONSE The above quote is a wrong inference from a fiscal law in Shulchan Oruch, Choshen Mishpat 405.3, that relates to times when slavery was a standard and accepted practice across the world. It states that if an ox gored a pregnant woman, and this resulted in the loss of the fetus, the owner does not have to pay for the loss of the fetus (medical expenses and other damages are discussed elsewhere). If an ox gored a pregnant non-Jewish slave-woman, the owner of the ox has to pay for the loss of the fetus to the owner of the slave-woman (because the owner would have had another slave to work for him had the woman given birth). The same applies if the ox gored a pregnant cow, or a sheep, because had the animal given birth, the owner would have had an extra one. The law is clearly hinged on the rights of the owner, and does not compare non-Jews and animals in any way. It is purely legal, and does not have any philosophical or social implications. I.I.
CLAIM "The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
RESPONSE The above quote does not exist in the source. The reference to page 12b in Yalkut Reuveini is meaningless, as the pages are numbered individually, not having "a" and "b" parts. Yalkut does quote from Shnei Luchot Habrit (in Sefer Dovor Shebikdusho, Os Alef), that the souls of two ancient nations (Amoni and Moavi that do not exist now), come from "the spirit of impurity", but the same goes for the soul of a bastard (mamzer) of Jewish origin. I.I.
CLAIM "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
RESPONSE A complete fabrication. The reference to p.250 b is meaningless (unless "b" stands for "column 2"), as each page is individually numbered. There is no mention of any comparison of Jews to non-Jews on page 250. I.I.
CLAIM "If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
RESPONSE This appears to be a forgery. Joe Slater
CLAIM "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"." Jore dea 377, 1
RESPONSE The Mishna from which this law is derived speaks about a specific formula [in] Hebrew "Hamokom menachem eschem" that is said to somebody whose close relative died within [the] last 7 days, it does not mean regular words of consolation. A question is asked by the commentators: the above formula is said [by] the grieving person only for a close relative, and not even for a distant relative or a regular Jew, so why do we have to be told that it's not said for a servant? Several answers are given: either the personal servant is so close to his master, that he is considered by the master as his son, or because the servant was his property the master considered him part of his body so to speak. So why not say the above formula? The reason given is that people who don't know the master might hear and think that the slave was completely Jewish and part of master's family, which might lead to confusion. Actually, the same Mishna mentions that R. Gamaliel accepted this formula [of] condolence for his slave, because he respected the slave greatly for his Torah knowledge. I.I.
CLAIM "Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals." Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
RESPONSE It does not say this or any such thing. David Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." Sepher ikkarim III c 25
RESPONSE This is a misquotation. Rabbi Yosef Albo (the author) was asked by a Christian thinker about seeming injustice of the laws of Judaism dealing with charging interest on a loan. (According to Deuteronomy 23:20 and 23:21, a Jew is not allowed to lend with interest to another Jew, but may do so to a Gentile). R. Albo answers: The "Gentile" or "heathen" in the above passage refers to idolater, who refuses to keep seven Noahide laws. The laws are universal for all mankind:
1) prohibition of idolatry,
2) prohibition of blasphemy,
3) prohibition of murder,
4) prohibition of immorality and promiscuity,
5) prohibition of theft,
6) establishment of judicial system,
7) prohibition of cruelty to animals.
Such a person, who does not respect other's rights, places himself apart from human community and therefore can expect to be treated according to his own rules. He is a threat to everyone around and hence if somebody kills him, that person is not charged. On the contrary, even according to non-Jewish philosophers in those days (14th and 15th century, Spain), as R Albo brings, such a person should be killed. So it is regarding money matters: the prohibition of taking interest, that applies to everybody, including a non-Jew who keeps the Noahide laws (as R. Albo mentions a few sentences earlier), do not apply to him. I.I.
CLAIM "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
RESPONSE This is from the Shulcan Aruch and applies to killing Jewish heretics. The following line in this passage is that this law does not apply to anyone non-Jewish and it is forbidden to harm any gentile. The Jewish heretics are people which are a potential cause of harm and trouble to the Jewish nation. The penalty is designed to demonstrate the severity with which heretical views were considered, rather than a practical penalty as such penalties were rarely imposed. E.S./David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
RESPONSE It does not say this - this is a forgery. David S. Maddison ([email protected])
CLAIM "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
RESPONSE Midrash Bamidbar Raba 21: "[Numbers 23:11 regarding Phinehas who killed Zimri for fornicating with a Midianite woman] `Because he was zealous for his G-d and atoned for the children of Israel' It says he atoned - did he bring a sacrifice? This teaches us that whoever spills the blood of the wicked is like someone who brings a sacrifice."
Joe Slater
